PHD Comics, Funny or Not

A reader sent us this link to PHD comics, where average salaries of collegiate football coaches are seen as 11 times higher than tenured professors.  The average football coach makes $1 million and change — and the average (male) tenured prof gets $95,000.  A female gets $86,000.

Question: Is Greedy Greg Schiano worth 11 professors?  Is he worth twice as much as an average coach?

On another note: another day, another editorial against the Rutgers Stadium expansion.  This piece in the Bergen Record specifically opposes the university’s efforts to sell “naming rights” to the stadium to the highest bidder.  Read the piece.  It is adamantly against pretty much everything to do with the “foolish” stadium expansion.


11 Responses to PHD Comics, Funny or Not

  1. hinson32 says:

    Until I see 26,500 people paying $280 a year to hear a professor teach, I think Mr. Schiano is woth more than 11 professors.

  2. Huck Finne says:

    Actually, somewhere around 43,000 people pay far more than $280 per year to hear a few professors teach. If we assume $10,000 tuition per year (I think it’s more than that, but $10,000 makes for simpler math.) and ten classes per year that gives us $1000 per year to see one professor teach. Even if we factor in the fact that many students do not pay full tuition, we still would be at well over $280 per year to see one professor.

  3. ferdek says:

    Hinson: your math is OK but your analysis is ridiculous. Relying on the dollar value as “the” measure of societal value is simply crude market economics and it doesn’t wash at least on a university web site. On a net basis RU football runs a deficit as acknowledged by McCormick until the new stadium produces “net positive” profits. Right now the Knights are not generating profits let alone sending money to support the academic mission of the university. Schiano produces entertainment using publicly subsidized inputs like scholarship athletes and tax-exempt bonds. Entertainment! Academicians are not governed by your simplistic math and shouldn’t be judged on how many students come through their classroom doors. Hopefully you are not an RU alum since your level of appreciation for academics is almost tragic. The allegiance to football and winning is part of our dark undercurrent of militarism’s impact on our societal values. Look Schiano is grossly overpaid in terms of performance 8 years and a losing record and three trivial bowl appearances that were just recently invented to help third rate programs to claim a bowl game. Get serious Schiano out negotiated the incompetents, McCormick/Mulcahy/BoGs.

  4. MM says:

    You’re paraphrasing a Bear Bryant line from the 60s – 70,000 people won’t show up to watch a chemistry class. Still, your reference to 26,500 fans is a pretty telling – the stadium should be downsized, not expanded.

  5. hinson32 says:

    The 26,500 is the amount of season tickets we could sell when you take out students, visitors, etc. I know that I stand alone on this blog, but I would rather Rutgers have a top 10 football team than a top 10 English Department. Popular with you folks or not, those are my true feelings. I donate my $$$ to the Scarlet R.

  6. MM says:

    Actually, I think the Rutgers English Dept. has been ranked in the top 10 at various times. Let me ask a thornier question – would you rather have a top 10 football team or a top 10 public university?

  7. ferdek says:

    MM/Hinson: some will argue you can have both a top ten public university and a top ten football program. Sure you can but what does one have to do with the other? A top ten public university(not just using the US News rankings but peer rankings) is meeting its primary mission hopefully across most departments and both graduate and undergraduate levels. The graduates are recognized in their admission to top ranked graduate schools, professional schools and other measures of quality. The beneficiaries of a top ten public university is the entire student body in the case of RU probably 40,000 plus. Now a top ten football program produces high quality sports entertainment an extra-curricular activity that directly benefits the “football fans” on campus plus other fans. These beneficiaries of the entertainment do not have their academic or professional lives enhanced since it is entertainment or ambiance 7 days a year. Look at the time spent earning a BS/BA just doesn’t compare to the few hours spent cheering for football entertainment. When you graduate there is no footnote on the degree indicating your team’s football W-L record. Your scores on the GRE, LSAT and other professional testing will tell a more important tale than what “bowl” your team was in. RU’s mission should be utmost in the planning for the future given the imminent depression down the road. So RU’s football program is entertainment first and foremost. It is not an integral part of RU’s academic mission.

  8. John Lister says:

    Actually Hinson is wrong on all counts. Many more than 70,000 people watch chemistry/physics/classes. As an example the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures have an audience in the hundreds of thousands.

    That’s possibly a better analogy.

  9. John Lister says:

    Oh, and another thing. If you look at the list of luminaries who gave the lectures, it’s a sure bet that all of them will be remembered better in 30 years time than a second rate football coach of a third rate team. Greg who?

  10. MM says:

    See, I don’t think you can have it both ways. The prestigious schools had academic prestige long before they had big time football teams – eg., Penn playing Michigan for a National Championship. The Rutgers model is more along the lines of Miami, Louisville & South Florida. No one would ever confuse them with Wisconsin.

  11. Alum From the Banks says:

    The “Why Not Both Athletics and Academics?” argument boils down to money. Rutgers does not have enough money to support a Big-Time Athletics Program, with $2 Million dollar coaches and $100 million construction projects when it has $500 million in deferred maintenance (that’s just getting us to where we NEED TO BE, not WHERE WE SHOULD BE AIMING FOR).

    Basically, with the economic downturn, Rutgers has a deferred maintenance bill equal to that of its total endowment. Football as a money-making small business for Rutgers is a high risk program…We might as well go down to Atlantic Cit and bet on it all Black at the roulette wheel–better odds than football, at least.

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